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Postby angel143 » Tue Jun 16, 2009 3:05 pm

Hi Bron

I hope you are having a GREAT day 2!!!! :)

How is it going for you? Do you need anything from us?

Stay in touch, send out a shout, let us know how you are doing. We are all thinking about you.

When is that 1st meeting?

Keep in touch
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Postby tim-one » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:45 pm

WELCOME TO LIFE, BRON!

Proud of you! Courage ... the decision that started that first day.

[quote]My drinking problem is I can’t “sociallyâ€
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Postby BostonGuy » Tue Jun 16, 2009 9:29 pm

If you need to find an AA meeting in Wisconsin:

Central Services Northern Wisconsin is area 74 www.area74.org

Central Services Southern Wisconsin is area 75 www.area75.org

I'm on day 120, a single day at a time.

I was lucky that I found a meeting early in my sobriety and reached out and asked for help. The Old Timers suggested I go to 90 meeting in the first 90 days.

They also suggested the following:

Don't Drink
Go to Meetings
Join a group
Find a Sponsor (even a temporary sponsor)
Get connected with other Alcoholic Anonymous members via phone or internet or inperson (meetings).

Good luck!

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Postby sunlight » Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:06 pm

Hi Bron,

Just want to welcome you and to assure you that you are among friends. Alcoholics have a bond like no other. :wink:

Hope to hear from you soon!
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Postby tim-one » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:19 am

Hey, Bosguy,

Thanks for sharing the 120/120 suggestion. I received some interesting info about that for the little-known-and-even-less-cared-for file.

AAers noticed awhile back that, statistically, newcomers tend to go out around 3 months. More recently, they noticed that 6 months is another statistical curiosity.

On the medical treatment side of it, them scientificalistic guys studying Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome (PAWS) noticed elevated symptoms related to continuing physical withdrawal at approximately 3 month intervals for up to 2 years after a severe detox. 90 days, 120, etc. (Individual results may vary. Offer void in some states of mind. Must be present to win.)

Anyway ... I thought that was interesting.

I spent 28 days in residential rehab, 28 days in IOP, and then started my 90/90. I keep loosing count. (Whadya want from me ... I'm an alcoholic fer cryin' out loud. :roll: ) Still haven't missed a meeting, but what the heck ... I just restart the count. Too much trouble to look it up or write it down.

No skin off my teeth if it takes me a few years to do my 90 days. What's the worst that could happen? STAY SOBER??? pffft. :P

Love,
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Postby Dallas » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:47 pm

I believe that the 90/90 and 120/120 was the result of someone trying to figure out how to deal with alcoholic procrastination.

An alcoholic will take 90 or 120 days to do what he/she could do in one day! :lol:

Take a logical approach and answer this question to see if it might relate:

Go to 90 PTA meetings in 90 days... then, take the test to see if you're going to be a parent? :lol:

If that didn't work... and the pregancy test failed... try doing the same thing the same way... and go to 30 more PTA meetings during the next 30 days (120/120) and then take the test... Are you going to be a parent? Did the pregnancy test pass or fail?

Just going to 90/90 or 120/120 AA meetings is about as productive to a spiritual awakening that will relieve the compulsion and obsession of the alcoholic to drink (and recovery) --- as going to 90/90 or 120/120 PTA meetings to achieve pregancy and becoming a parent!

It's the actions that are taking place outside the meetings... that determines whether there has been success or failure.

Take the 12 Steps. Get them over with as soon as possible. Then, keep going to meetings... or start some new meetings.

A newcomer that Dr. Bob was sponsoring had two weeks sober... completed the Steps, and was off to Chicago to start AA there! And, he succeeded! By the way... he didn't have 90 days... and there weren't meetings available to do 90 meetings in 90 days.

If AA-er's would get back to the program in the BB -- they wouldn't have to be so concerned with how many meetings they attend in any number of days.

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Postby garden variety » Wed Jun 17, 2009 1:46 pm

Dallas wrote:A newcomer that Dr. Bob was sponsoring had two weeks sober... completed the Steps, and was off to Chicago to start AA there! And, he succeeded!


Dallas! How could you let that one out of the bag? Don't you know it violates that "unwritten rule" that says we're not supposed to make any major decisions within the first year of sobriety? Moving to Chicago? Starting an AA group where there wasn't one? Man oh man, those are pretty major decisions! Good thing his sponsor didn't drop him for not following directions :roll:

Dallas wrote:If AA-er's would get back to the program in the BB -- they wouldn't have to be so concerned with how many meetings they attend in any number of days.


The 90/90 "unwritten rule" is alive and well up here in Ohio. Usually my first comment is "Where do you find 90 meetings in 90 days in the book?" which gets more than a few folks that work in treatment centers and halfway houses pretty hot under the collar.

Unfortunately for the 90/90 promoters, some alcoholics have committments that require their attendence, like children, spouses, jobs, and upkeep. Oh did I say "promotion"? Wasn't that somewhere in the 12 Traditions? Doesn't it go something like "Our public relations policy is based on PROMOTION rather than ATTRACTION. We need always maintain 90/90." That's the ticket isn't it? :twisted:

(In case no one noticed - that was a smart@ss remark, not really a Tradition)
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Postby Dallas » Wed Jun 17, 2009 2:03 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Should I make a trip up there and help drop some hot coals down the collars? :wink:

Yep. We've got the BB, which are the written instructions... written guidelines and suggestions... instructions in writing... "the basic text for our Society." So, the BB is a text book!

I remember in school I had "text books."

Text books were not something that we just read... they were full of examples and instructions for "what to do" and "how to do it" and "how it works" for the subject matter of the text book.

I can read a text book about math -- and in a few minutes forget most of all that I read. However, if I do the exercises... I'll probably learn something AND do something... and be able to do something... like math! :wink:

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Postby tim-one » Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:43 pm

Hey, Bron.

I hope you're doing well, brother. What's the good news?

See now why we all, even those of us who do it, say it's not a good idea to think? :lol:

Here we gotcher conservatives and liberals and socialists and capitalists and believers and aetheists and ..... discussing what the meaning of "IS" is outa the same book HHHmmmm ... ever seen that happen with a book? :lol: :lol:

Don't be distracted by it. There's enough o'that comin and you may not be ready to understand that we're just having fun with it. Sounds serious.

But I think most of us agree on the simplicity of doin' the deal.

The fact "IS" (aw, geez,, did I say that outloud?):

I'm an alcoholic and I could not help myself.

Submitting myself to the HP of my understanding and the AA method got me sober and is keeping me sober as long as I do that.

Keep it simple, bro.

1. Don't drink

2. Pray, read, and meditate every morning

3. Work with YOUR sponsor (The one whose sobriety you respect)

4. Surround yourself with sober people (Oh, let's say that means go to meetings)

5. Your local AA group "conscience" - DO THAT. (You pick up that conscience from your AA meeting group attitude)

Repeat daily.

Piece o'pie. Easy as cake. :)

OF COURSE, the simple 5 daily things is a little different in different places. But they're identical in intent.

Let us know how you're doin, buddy. Lookin forward to you lookin forward ... TODAY.

Love,
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Postby Dallas » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:13 pm

Did I miss something here?
Does it appear that we have lost Bron?

You might have to save up all of these wonderful suggestions... to pass on to the next guy or girl that may be desparate enough to want it.

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