It's interesting to note that Tradition Three was changed from its original version which said that the only requirement was an honest or sincere desire to stop drinking
littlemiss wrote:he actually said that IF you didn't get what he was talking about (hanging in those kind of dingy bars drinking ALL DAY LONG) you didn't belong in A.A....weren't an alcoholic he implied...
Carol wrote:We can't compare drunkalogues and determine what is alcoholism. If you think you have a problem, you probably do. Normal people don't have to think about controlling their drinking. That's what makes us "real" alcoholics -- no matter how much, how long or where we drank.
carol1017 wrote:I was so tired when I wrote my response -- maybe I should have waited. I apologize for any confusion.
What I read in the original post from Littlemiss was that a member of her group was comparing other's experience to his, and in essence, saying that his type of drinking/alcoholism was the only "real" type.
Yes...but being the smart & sassy & savy gal that I am I can see what I need to take & what I need to throw away...the man STILL had a lot of truth to say...And I agree w/ Dallas...the insane crap we tell ourselves (the addict part in us anyway) is way worse...
The point I was trying to make is that no matter what any individual member may think or say about being a member of AA, the tradition stands. I have seen people come to meetings drunk(repeatedly), I have seen them not take the program seriously, I have seen them take half-hearted steps. It is not up to me to judge whether that person is a "real alcoholic" or whether their desire is "honest or sincere". It is entirely up to the individual. Maybe they will "get it", maybe they won't, and maybe they just haven't had enough yet.
As has been discussed before, the elevator doesn't always go to the basement -- not every member of AA has found him/herself living under a bridge, not everyone did their drinking in bars -- however, the one thing that holds true about (as Debbie said) SOBER members of AA is that they had finally had enough. Enough of being sick and tired, enough to be willing to do whatever is required to achieve and maintain sobriety, and became desperate enough to take action.
We can't compare drunkalogues and determine what is alcoholism. If you think you have a problem, you probably do. Normal people don't have to think about controlling their drinking. That's what makes us "real" alcoholics -- no matter how much, how long or where we drank.
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