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gunner48 · Joined: 05 Jul 2009 Posts: 80 Location: sedalia mo

Hey Angel regular Pepsi is fine. Never developed a liking for those other flavors. I listen to others and gather what they say so I can apply that information to my life to see if I can formalate a new conception that will work better for me. My spirital developement is ever changing for the better. It is because others are willing to share how they have developed. ANY TIME SOMEONE TELLS ME MY BELIEFS ARE WRONG, I WILL FIGHT TO THE BITTER END. Don't tell me how to develope , Please show me how you were able to get what you have.
The most talented people I have ever meet were the walking examples of this great program. I can list hundreds but you already have your own examples.
I refer to last sentence on page92 and continues thur the page 93 to first sentence page 94
Peace and Love

Dallas · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject:

Hey... Just in case I'm included....... It's not my business what anyone believes and I sure haven't been trying to convince anyone of anything. Hopefully, I didn't need to write that, but thought I would -- just in case.

I know what I believe and why I believe it. That's all that's important to me and I don't try to defend it nor do I try to get anyone to go along with me.

If it "appears" that I'm doing so, please point it out to me. 99% of communication is "what someone else thinks I said"... and I take full 100% responsibility if my communication has failed. I feel it's not someone elses responsibility to "hear" what I've said or wrote... It's my responsibility to clean it up if I wasn't effective in my communication.

I need other people to point out to me the things in me that they see that I don't see. There are things that I won't see -- and without someone pointing it out -- I'm screwed.

So... "if it appears to anyone" that I'm doing something -- please be kind enough to let me know -- so I can clarify it or clean it up.... Don't expect me to read your minds. I'm too busy reading my own.

A lot of alkies here get ticked off at me -- because they're doing things "by inference"... I don't do "by inference." When I "do by inference" I always get it wrong -- so I don't try to figure out what's not said to me in black & white.

If you have to, grab me by the neck and say "Hey Dallas! This is what I think you're doing! " And, ask me "Are you doing that?"

I would appreciate that courtesy...

Thank you, to all.

Dallas

leejosepho · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject:

Dallas · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:11 am Post subject:

So, somebody tell me what's going on. Is anyone nerved up about something? Especially nerved up about something I wrote. Like I say... I'm too busy thinking about me to think about you.... so, when you think I'm directing something at what your writing... trust me, I'm too self-centered to be doing that! Laughing

Heck, it doesn't bother me with who believes what. Half the time I don't know what I believe... so I try to stay away from the believing stuff and I just try to focus on taking actions.

It went the same way with my drinking. I didn't sit around thinking about my drinking or thinking of what someone else thought about it. Didn't matter to me... I drank for the results not for the opinions! Laughing

If I cared about opinions I would have become a philosopher instead of a drunk! Laughing

Dallas

Tim · Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 236

Dallas · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject:

Tim · Joined: 05 Aug 2005 Posts: 236

Dallas · Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 7:57 pm Post subject:

I understand. Wink

Ranman99 · Joined: 03 Aug 2009 Posts: 145 Location: Singapore

Well gifts I get.

I have been debating, praying trying to quit smoking the last few weeks. I have thrown about a dozen half packs in the garbage.

So today I go to meet a guy for lunch and I am having a smoke. I even prayed for strength the last 24 hours you know to do it my way.

So I finish the smoke to walk into the restaurant and through it into the storm drain and as I walk to the restaurant door these two young guys walk up and flash a badge (all the cops in Singapore look like high school kids I guess I'm getting old) and my heart starts to race just like it does whenever I see flashing lights in the rearview mirror you know the way we are programmed and all.

Well the little bugger fines me the equivalent of about $200.00 USD for littering. That HP man sense of humour or what.

I'm finsihing this last pack and that's it I swear.

Going for a smoke now.

I could be lying on a beach in Bora Bora with all the money in the world and be going completly insane if left to my own self. This much I know is true.

It's better trying to figure out how I can be of service Wink

Cheers,

Dallas · Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:04 am Post subject:

Yep. I understand. It's always better to have one more last cig before you quit! Laughing

I used to want to say that with my drinking... Didn't get very far with it until I got some outside help! Laughing

But, if stopping smoking takes you on the brink of a drink... by all means fire it up! Or... at least I would!

Or... you could go to one of those accupuncture guys... take some fishing line with you and get a cheap lip zip! Laughing

Just don't leave any spaces the size of a staw!

Dallas

Ranman99 · Joined: 03 Aug 2009 Posts: 145 Location: Singapore

Agreed! Agreed!. Used to only smoke when I was out on the binges but this time when I staggered back in I kept that little monkey hanging on. But I'm just about ready Wink

Wife and I did accupunture in Kuala Lumpur on 2001. It was 10 sessions and after session 9 she was really pissed to keep spending money and not stop so she did and hasn't smoked since. She has been tempted a few times becuase she lives with yours truly but she has done a bang up job of not firing up.

Me well I'll be cautious and HP just gave me a fine so I got that going for me Wink

As my sponsor says. I'm right where I'm supposed to be. The Bast#$%!

BostonGuy · Joined: 06 May 2009 Posts: 9 Location: Boston

We Agnostics.....

Currently my AWOL is on Chapter 4.

I don't care what the dictionary says, but my definition is that as an alcoholic, I was so self centered I didn't care about anything but my next drink. My only higher power was the procurement of alcohol.

My wife, family, friends, career and health were a distant second to alcohol.

With my short sobriety and limited knowledge of AA, it seems that Chapter 4 is trying to get me to look outside of "MYSELF"! Start to think of something other than the "Great I AM".

I my not be Happy, Joyous and Fee yet, but I'm working on it a day at a time.

Paul

Ranman99 · Joined: 03 Aug 2009 Posts: 145 Location: Singapore

HeyPaul gald to see you.

I was thinking up a nice rant for my morning meeting and then the topic was a reading of tradition 1 so I got of on a chat about the lifeboat.

What I had been thinking was about my HP what a fine old her/he/it they be!

When I was out there Alcohol was with out a doubt my HP. The thing about good old darlin' alcohol as HP is the way she works.

First off she gives you dutch courage (almost got smacked by a dutchman once for saying that) and you can be the life of the party and easy going with the ladies and then Alcohol HP just don't care if she gives you a good case of whiskey d&*k to boot.

Then she sure don't mind if she takes your wife and your job and if she don't take your kids she sure doesn't mind if they join the fold later on. Why the earlier the better.

Starting to not sound ike a very loving HP more like the other kind of HP some folks get on about.

She also doesn't mind if you hand over that drivers license tank you very much who says driving is a privilege anyhow.

And of course the more we worship the more she just doesn't mind if she sees you dead. The good old saying that my disease wants me dead well she sure don't care if you do and judging by what I have seen with my own eyes she likes it just fine. Shocked

What a power?

There was a night back in 1997 where I pulled out of a bar and immediatley got pulled over. The cop testified in court that he had to grab me by the arm to keep me from falling in the ditch. Probably my real HP had a better plan that night.

As Sandy Beach says did I see that poor cop as a spiritual messanger that night? Not on your life instead of being greatful that I didn't do time I was pissed that I lost my license for 2 years instead of the usual 1 year. My lawyer was very happy to be rid of me. Hmmmm. Cool

Took me 11 more years tank you very much. The Alcohol HP did it's thing and though my real HP kept throwing out the life lines I was FAR too stubborn, blind, selfish, sick etc. etc. etc. to see it.

I also made anote this morning that "God as we understand him" means just that. Not for me to really try and explain my HP to anyone else. Pretty hard to do even if I tried. Wink

Not for me to try to understand anyone elses either as long as I got something going I can be just greatful for that. Razz

If a sponsee wants to know what I have done to get connected and were I have been then we can have a nice chat about it under a cannon ball tree. Wink

Dallas · Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:25 am Post subject:

I couldn't find a Power greater than myself -- until alcohol and myself became a Problem greater than myself! When I was left with no alternatives -- I had to find another solution. Wink