Thanks for sharing & for refreshing this topic! Whats amazing to me is: this is a topic that I've been silently contemplating recently. Meaning: Quietly thinking about it -- rather than talking about it. So, I've been doing some internal and external personal research.
Personally, I was soberly raised up in the old AA idea of "not getting involved w/ discussing alcoholism as a disease -- simply sticking to the idea of 'a malady' or 'an illness' ... as it's described in the Big Book -- when discussing alcoholism in an AA or sobriety discussion environment. I've recently noticed how the GSO & Grapevine -- have strayed away from this tradition and have mingled 'disease' into some of the recent AA literature. And, personally -- I think it's a huge mistake for us AA's to get involved w/ a 'disease' concept regardless of how politicall correct, or academically & professional sounding that it might be.
And, how does what I just wrote pertain to this topic? (Since 'the disease' idea wasn't mentioned so my comments might appear out of place or off topic )... It's simply a part of my recent thoughts that tie in w/ the topic of 'spiritual malady' and 'religious themes' that sometimes get discussed in AA -- and a fresh way of observing and looking at the subject.
I have to remind myself often, that 'other people' do not live inside my brain -- so, when I discuss something I need to ask myself the question 'do they understand what I mean? How I mean it? What I mean by what I say?'
Here is an example: Let's suppose... I'm discussing alcohol-ism or 'spiritual malady' or 'spirituality' or 'things of a spiritual nature' as they are mentioned in the book, Alcoholics Anonymous -- and I'm discussing this w/ someone that has 'no previous knowledge or experience' of religion? How would I describe and explain what those words and those terms mean -- when I'm saying them? As difficult to do as this may sound -- one thing that would be definitely more difficult for me to do -- would be discussing the topic 'with' someone that already had religious ideas!
So, I'll pose the questions here that I might be asked by someone that was trying to understand what I might be talking with -- about what I think 'spiritual' means to me -- when discussing these ideas that are found in the Big Book:
1. What is the meaning of 'spiritual'? And,
2. What is my 'spirit'?
The reason that I believe the questions and the answers are so pertinent is: if I'm going to 'steer clear' of discussing alcohol-ism in terms of it being a 'disease' ... and I'm going to discuss things of a 'spiritual nature' while 'steering clear' of religion -- how will I answer those questions? And, by answering these questions for myself -- 'as if' I'm the other person -- it will help me to better understand 'myself' and 'what it means to me.'
I hope that wasn't confusing!
So, I'll ask those here in the forum:
1. What do you mean -- when you say the word 'spirit'?
2. What is 'my spirit'?
3. What do you mean -- when you say or write the word 'spiritual'?
Thanks for sharing your understandings!