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Help for alcohol abuse addiction alcoholics who want to stay sober

Postby flea » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:56 am

I missed this topic somehow. I'm not a chef by any means but I love to cook. I was thinking a few years ago about again cooking with wine. One of my sponsors found the real information about alcohol "cooking out" At the time I was going through a divorce and my desire to cook with wine was likely more a product of that than any culinary need.

All The Alchohol Does NOT Evaporate!

I can't locate the link to the USDA study that actually tested for retained alchohol but the chart at this link agrees with what I saved as a wordpad document.

http://homecooking.about.com/library/ar ... ohol12.htm

Liz Scott's The Sober Kitchen is a pretty good cook book. I bought a few and gave them as gifts. This cookbook uses NO alcohol. I guess I'm a little anal about it but I don't use the vanilla extract (or any other) containing alcohol. I also read the Dijon-style (like grey poupon) mustard labels to find the very few without wine. After a while checking labels becomes second nature. They stick wine in things you don't think about.

I know of a few in the program who do eat dishes prepared with wine or other spirits and one that cooks with wine. That's between them and their sponsors. I can't do it.

You'll hear about "alcohol soluble flavors". OK, but if those flavors are there with alcohol. they will still be there without the booze. Tomato sauces are often mentioned as requiring wine to bring out those "alcohol soluble flavors" . I just took a quick look at Marcella Hazan's Essentials of Italian Cooking and didn't see one tomato sauce recipe that used wine. There might be one or two hidden in there but clearly wine isn't required.

A big problem with many restaurants is that they add alcohol at the very end of the cooking so very little evaporates. I know what's in most dishes but I do ask occasionally. I've also ordered dishes that do not normally contain alcohol that obviously did when they arrived. I sniff and send it back if there is any doubt. Anything with alcohol in it is not what I ordered. Restaurants will also tell you that all the booze cooks out leaving only the flavor.

That is patently wrong, but anyway, I really don't think I need that flavor either.

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Postby dimples12562 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:26 am

flea wrote:All The Alchohol Does NOT Evaporate!

I can't locate the link to the USDA study that actually tested for retained alchohol but the chart at this link agrees with what I saved as a wordpad document.

http://homecooking.about.com/library/ar ... ohol12.htm

flea


Greta info Flea!!! Thanks so much for sharing!! I passed your entire post on to my sponsor, thought she might like it. We all (Spons & all us pigeons) get together for a girls night of cooking eating and sharing :) Good info to share!!
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Postby Dallas » Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:13 pm

Yep!!! Thanks for passing that along flea! Good to see you!
You've been missed!
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Postby flea » Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:38 pm

Thanks Dallas. I drift through once in a while. But I don't often post anywhere.

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